Japanese TV Program Recommendations
Japanese TV Program Recommendations After only like 2 years of thinking about it I finally got an HDD recorder (think Tivo).

The biggest reason I didn't get one earlier is they are EXPENSIVE in Japan. Tivo was the first in the states (I think) and their business model was sell you the hardware cheap and make you pay for the service. No one has really done that in Japan. Almost all the various units are not attached to any service. That means instead of like a Tivo which is/was $300~$400 the Japanese HDD recorders were more like $1000~$1500!!! This last year they came down to around $600 at the low end but still that was more than I wanted to spend.

But, recently Sony dropped the price on the PSX. The 5100 model with a 160HD is 44800yen including tax at Yodobashi Camera. That comes out to about $375.00 U.S. The next cheapest 160HD Recorder is around 58000 yen (about $480) and that doesn't include a PS2 built in (not that I needed another PS2). Note that most Japanese HDD recorders include a DVD recorder so that is one obvious reason for the higher price over a Tivo.

Anyway, they are not nearly as cool as Tivo in terms of recording TV programs. You don't pick a program to record and let it figure out when it's on like Tivo nor do they record other programs you might be interested in automatically. Instead you program it just like a VCR. You give it a start and stop time. To help you with that task there is a free service called G-Guide which most of the latest HDD recorders support. That service broadcasts its data over a sideband of one of the TV stations and the HDD recorders save the data and provide you with a program listing for the next 2 weeks. You can browse the listing and pick programs to record. Of course you can set it to record something at the same time every day or every week but it's set to the time, not the program so if the program gets moved or pre-empted or if it's on at another time then you are out of luck unless you manually notice and fix it.

They do give you the ability to filter the listing by keyword so if you are looking for "Friends" you can enter that in and see only programs with the word "Friends" in their title.

One thing the PSX has over most of the other units though, as far as I can tell, is the PSX is running a PS2 inside which is a full-on computer. That means they can update the software. Even better, the system has an ethernet connection so they could update it over the net. Hopefully Sony will get a clue and add a Tivo like service. The funny thing is, supposedly they have one. It's called Cocoon but it's a completely separate division from the division that makes the PSX and the other division that makes the SugoRoku (スゴ録) (Sony's other HDD recorder series).

Because of this ethernet connection they could add so many features if they wanted to. I'm not sure they have the clue they need to do it. For example they could do something like Q-CAST. That would really ROCK but so far I'm not even sure if Sony Japan has even heard of Q-CAST or XBMC for that matter. The PSX could do this today. If they don't, some company will and that company has the chance to be the iPod of AV units meaning the top selling AV equipment that everyone wants. Of course with the lowered price PSX has become the top selling AV equipment in Japan.

Anyway, none of that is the point of this post

I wanted an HDD recorder specifically because watching Japanese TV is supposed to be good for Japanese practice but Japanese TV is pretty dang boring. So, using an HDD recorder, hopefully I can more easily record those few programs that are actually interesting and then when I end up having time to watch TV I'll have something I actually want to watch.

My current list is pretty much only 2 programs. One Piece, an anime program which I was already able to get through other channels and Shaberi-ba (しゃべり場), a youth debate program.

So, tell me, what other programs are out there that are at all interesting? I'm sure everyone has different tastes but any recommendations are welcome. At a mimimum please tell me the name, time and channel and I'll take a look.

Comments:

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Sony combined the "Sugo-roku" and PSX teams back in May:

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/lif
estyle/articles/0405/19/news
072.html


Also, Tivo-like functionality is coming as part of the next-gen PSX, due out in December:

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/lif
estyle/articles/0410/14/news
002.html


Keep your fingers crossed that they will also add the same functionality to the current PSX via a firmware upgrade!

posted by ScottOctober 16, 2004 at 9:14

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I watch all my Japanese TV using bittorrent. The shows are typically recorded from over-the-air TV stations in LA or Hawaii, with burned-in subtitles, but you could always put post-it notes over the subtitles:

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.p
hp?sid=3139202d626a9d74d91fd
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posted by JoeWebSurferOctober 17, 2004 at 3:42

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most of those are Japanese drama's.  I can't take Japanese dramas.  The only thing that makes them better than American soap operas is cuter women but that's not enough for me to get over the rediculous melodramatic stories and bad acting.

posted by greggmanOctober 17, 2004 at 3:44

List so far [ e ]

  • しゃべり場 (Shaberi-ba, teens or college students debating)
    Friday, Ch3, 11:30pm ~ 12:15am
  • ランク王国 (a silly ranking program)
    Sunday Ch6, 1:30am ~ 2:00am
  • マシューTV (a crazy talk show. was in Lost in Translation)
    Wednesday, Ch10, 11:15pm ~ 12:15am
  • トリビアの泉 (silly trivia show, he------y)
    Wednesday, Ch8, 9:00pm ~ 10:00pm
  • はねるのトびら (some recommended comedy)
    Tuesday, Ch8, 11:00pm ~ 11:30pm
  • 恋のから騒ぎ (20 girls talking about boy problems)
    Saturday, Ch4, 11:00pm ~ 11:30pm
  • ワンピース (my favorite anime)
    Sunday, Ch8, 7:30pm ~ 8:00pm

posted by greggmanOctober 17, 2004 at 4:12

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Not all Japanese drama is melodramatic, and not all the acting is bad, but if it's not your cup of tea I understand.  I find that quiz shows are good for learning new vocabulary, especially if the questions deal with subjects that are just on the easy side of obscure.

My favorite quiz show is Akashiya TV, but it's Kansai-local.
Maybe Quiz$Millionaire (Fuji, 7pm Thurs) or Hexagon (Fuji, Weds 8pm)
If you like Koi no Karasawagi you might want to look at Kinsuma (umm..  the current title is 中居正広の金曜日のスマたちへ), Fridays on TBS at 9pm.

And the show ジェネジャン sometimes has talk specials that are like shaberiba, I think.
If you like Kansai-ben you might try きらきらアフロ(Mon TVTokyo, just after midnight).  It's hard to keep up with but the malapropisms are fun.

Oh, and 剛しんどい(12:16 Weds, Asahi) might help with ideas about meeting people.  The premise is that Dohmoto Tsuyoshi doesn't have friends so he asked the producers to set him up each week.

I think the only show I catch every week is KoiKara.  Sad that I'm home Saturday nights, but it's better than being at the office...

posted by RickOctober 17, 2004 at 9:46

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I've been meaning to make some recordings of the anime Saizai-san (ch6 Sunday night?) for quite a while. My Japanese is quite basic but I found this show good for picking up expressions and words that often occur in daily life. I asked at quite a few video stores if they sold DVDs of Saizai-san but was out of luck. Has anyone else found this show useful for studying Japanese?

posted by TimOctober 18, 2004 at 4:46

sigh... [ e ]

1-3-4-6-8-10-12!

I'd kill for some CountdownTV goodness... the last Saturday I was in Japan I realized I wasn't going to be able to watch it anymore... I think I miss CDT

posted by anonymousTroyOctober 18, 2004 at 23:49

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...V more than anything about life in Japan. Well, that isn't quite true but it is certainly top 10!

posted by anonymousTroyOctober 18, 2004 at 23:50

comedy! [ e ]

Hey there, I saw a post of yours on Ars and came to check out your site. I don't watch much TV but some shows I always try to catch are Karakuri TV (7PM on Sundays) and Zenigata Kintaro (used to be on late at night on Thursdays, but it's moving to 8PM on Wed. beginning a couple weeks from now). The former used to be a "funniest home video"  type deal but has morphed over time into its current format, which is hard to describe--some videos, repeating features. Sort of a game show, but funny stuff. The latter is a bunch of comedians who cruise around the country visiting poor people (starving students, would-be TV stars) and seeing how they live. Hilarity ensues.

If you want to learn Japanese from TV the dramas, as corny as they are, are probably your best bet. The people in them famously speak, slow, clearly enunciated Japanese with very little in the way of regional accent.

We might be doing an ArsMeet in Tokyo soon. Get in touch if you're interested in being a part of it.

posted by DurfOctober 21, 2004 at 21:54

Sony & Tivo [ e ]

I have a had a Tivo HDD for years in the States now. It's fantastic. And here's the kicker. It's made by Sony.

posted by tivofanOctober 23, 2004 at 3:47

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You've probably seen it, but just in case not, gatten is usually worth watching:  http://www.nhk.or.jp/gatten/

posted by vegOctober 24, 2004 at 7:17

あいのり [ e ]

I am a really big fan of あいのり。 Mondays after SMAP X SMAP. Basically it is a really sweet lighthearted Road Rules where the focus is on making couples. No stupid challenges. No dumb in-fighting. Just sappy sweetness with famous comedians giving commentary. After watching all the shitty news on TV, it is a great way to realize there is still staged goodness in the world.

I also love Sporto. What a great sports program. On after Fuji News which is on after Ainori.

posted by JPNovember 9, 2004 at 4:49

Shows to look for [ e ]

LONDON HEARTS (the best show ever made), SMAPxSMAP, Ai Nori, Gakkou Ikou, Naruto, and Utaban.

posted by NismoDecember 13, 2004 at 23:10