Nikon Coolpix S4 : Avoid at all costs
Nikon Coolpix S4 : Avoid at all costs I've been wanting a new digital camera for a long time now. My old one, a Sony DSC-F505 is 6 years old now, it's only 2 megapixels (same as my cell phone) and it's relatively large meaning I'm no longer willing to carry it with me all the time. I wanted something I could slip in my pocket if possible but that still took reasonably good pictures. I'd also really wanted something with at least 5x optical zoom which really limited my options. Most cameras are 3x zoom.

So, just about the time I really needed a camera as I was going on trips to both Osaka and Malaysia I decided to go get one. At first I was thinking of just settling for a Canon IXY-55 or 60 or 500 etc. They met NONE of my requirements except being small but that's probably the most important attribute because I knew I wasn't going to carry anything large. Still, they don't really take good pictures judging from the ones my friends take with them. They are really only good for polaroid quality pictures taken at a party (assuming you use the flash)

I went online to see what else was available and found out Nikon had just released a new camera, the Coolpix S4. It's similar to the old 900 series Coolpix with the swivel lens (swivel lenses are SOOO much more fun then non-swivel) and it had 10x optical zoom!!! Based on the reputation of Nikon I decided to go for it. Boy did I lose.

Unless I go out and actually take comparison images with multiple cameras it's really hard to show what's wrong with it. Basically it comes down to after taking about 250 pictures, nearly all of them suck.

The S4 can't seem to take a single picture without a tripod. If your hands wiggle at all you'll get a blurry picture. Sure, you should hold still as possible but I have another camera that doesn't have this problem. There's something specific to the Nikon that requires it to be held SUPER STILL. Even worse, it's got anti-jitter tech built in so it's supposed to deal with non-still hands better than one without that tech yet nearly 80% of my pictures are blurry.

Even worse, it tells you they are blurry when you take them. I guess telling you is good since you can then take another picture but when you try 8 times in a row to take a simple picture and 8 times you're told "Picture is Blurry" then you pull out your other camera, take the same picture in one shot no problem, something is wrong.

On top of that, 80% of the pictures I took have major bloom problems. Bloom is where some brighter spots in the picture kind of generate a halo around them that washes into the rest of the picture. Well, this S4 has that problem in 4 of 5 pictures and I'm not talking about pictures it uber contrast either. My old camera rarely has that problem if ever.

I took a bunch of pictures for a page I was going to put up on Japanese Nabe 2 days ago. Today I loaded them up, all of them are unusable. Pissing me off I decided to go to my kitchen where I took those pictures and take a simple picture of an apple on a cutting board with both my 6 year old camera and the S4. My 6 year old camera took the picture instantly. The Nikon, the first picture came out too dark. Checking the settings I put everything in automatic. It took me 7 tries to get it to take the picture and not tell me "Picture is Blurry" and that picture is acutally still blurry compared to the picture from the old camera.

The Nikon also has a situational setting mode. You flip the switch then when you pull up the menu you can pick from one of about 20 situations, Sports, Party, Outdoors, Night Scene, etc. I picked Party thinking that means "indoors", unfortunately that put the flash on and you can't turn it off (I never use a flash). I looked again and found a setting "Museum" which I assumed means "indoor-no-flash". It took the picture, the picture is not blurry but it's also super noisy compared to the picture my old camera took as well as being too dark. In fact the picture looks banded almost like it's a solarized picture.

Other issues, my old camera has a point exposure option where you could tell it to only consider the center of a picture when deciding on the exposure. You point the camera at something and you can see the image get adjusted in realtime. So for example in a picutre of buildings with a bright sky in the background you can point it toward the sky and get all the cloud details but nearly black buildings as it adjust for the sky or you can point it at the buildings in which case you'll see the details on the buildings but the sky will be washed out. Once it appears as you like it you hold the shutter button halfway down then point the camera where you actually want to take the picture. This Nikon has no such option so many pictures are basically not possible to take.

Clearly I lose, this camera SUCKS ASS. That's my *official* rating. Avoid it at all costs. Don't even consider it. It's piece of shit.

Now the question is what to get instead. I don't agree with my friend that you need a top end camera to get good pictures. Or rather, I don't agree that it's not possible to make a good low end camera. I might agree that all the manufactures are purposely making their consumer models take poorer pictures just so they still have a market for their upper end cameras. The proof is in the 8 or so cameras I've owned. Some took awesome pictures in all kinds of situations, situation my friend would claim require x,y or z but these cameas didn't have that. But, if all the manufactures are in fact making crappy consumer cameras then maybe I'll have to go SLR. Unfortunately I know I won't use an SLR as it's WAY TO BIG TO CARRY.

ps: I've actually wondered if this is a hardware problem or a software problem. For example, maybe the Nikon software takes several samples over time to make an image. It then averages them together giving a less noisy image. Unfortunately that means longer exposures, more blur. If true, a firmware upgrade could fix the blur problems. Whether or not the bloom problems are related I don't know. Also, some cameras post-process the image trying to make them *better* on average. I assume my 6 year old camera is not doing that. If the Nikon is, maybe part of the problem is there. Or, it could just be the Nikon hardware sucks. The fact that the "museum" setting came out so noisy where as my old camera did just fine suggests that maybe the sensor in the Nikon is crap. Oh well, I don't make them so I'm just guessing.

Comments:

Camera Woes [ e ]

If you're willing to settle for 3x zoom, the Sony P200 is awesome. 7 megapixel, easily fits in your pocket, manual modes, and takes great pictures even on full auto. Has the spot focus and spot exposure you talk about in your post (along with several other user-selectable focus/exposure modes). Plus if you have memory sticks left over from your F505 you can use them in the P200 (although anything less than 128MB is going to be too small for a 7MP camera).

In the mean time, go to the Nikon forum at dpreview.com and see if you can't figure out what's wrong with your Nikon.

posted by WingFatNovember 5, 2005 at 2:33

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What do you think of your f505v? I recently bought it second hand (it was cheap and I didn't need more than 2-3m pixels anyway), but I am very dissatisfied with it. All my pictures are extremely noisy or too dark etc. Is it really a shitty camera or are those second-hand syndromes?

I read elsewhere on internet that actually it was a rather good camera, but then I suppose it requires some uber skills?

posted by rayNovember 5, 2005 at 6:07

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I don't have a F505v, I have a F505 (previous model before the F505v)  I have no idea if there are any real differences.  I was pretty happy with my F505 except for some minor things.  It's no good for party pictures, the field of view is too small so from across the table you can only get about 3 people in a picture.  It took for friggen ever to ready the flash. It was bigger than I wanted to carry.

posted by greggmanNovember 5, 2005 at 6:34

small cameras [ e ]

Hey Gregg, I have a Panasonic Lumix FX2 and it's got this anti-blur feature also.  Of course 75% of the pics turn out blurry, and if I use a flash it looks like crap. Most of the time it takes 3 or 4 tries just to get one that's not too blurry. So it might not be only the Nikon but most of the portable sized camera have this problem nowadays...?

I really want to get a SLR badly tho!!

posted by chrissyNovember 6, 2005 at 3:24

This just got recommended [ e ]

Hi Gregg,

This camera is getting a lot of recommendations in the UK at the moment and it seems to fit your requirements (although only 3x opt zoom). Link below:
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/di
gital/cameras/f10/index.php?
page=press_reviews&nav_link=
yes&flash=8


That page has full specs as well as sample images to help you decide. Hope this helps

posted by uk_designer_mattNovember 6, 2005 at 16:35

Hands down.. get a Canon [ e ]

Canon powershot, not sure what the similar newer models are but I've got an A95 and you can have full auto, or full manual.. along with a range of other preset modes. Can add extra wide-angle, telephoto lenses or filters if you like too. Get an ND grad filter and you can take the photos of the building/sky and have BOTH look good. I got this on my last trip to Japan, to replace an older Powershot i got on my previous trip to Japan. On my next trip to Japan I'll be upgrading again.. to new Canon Powershot :).. It's a large-ish camera, but still pocketable. I believe Jeff over at sushicam.com has a similar A80 that he uses for his everday shots when he can't be bothered lugging the SLR.

posted by torihadaNovember 7, 2005 at 18:40

Pentax Optio X [ e ]

I love the compact size and swivel lens design of the Pentax Optio X.   I learned about it from a photographer named "selva" --- you can see some of the results here.

posted by girlincaliforniaNovember 7, 2005 at 21:57

Great site to goto...........MUST CHECK OUT!!! [ e ]

Casio Exilim series seems pretty popular in Japan, and gaining popularity in the US as well.  Casio and Pentax pretty much use similar parts including lens, so I would check both out and compare the features.

I have the Exilim z40, and its a rock solid camera.  The only problem is that the pictures taken in the dark w/o flash turns out little blurry unless if you stay still.  Still highly recommended.

Great site to goto for digital camera reviews is Steves Digicams.  It is a excellent site where Steve, an amature photographer, reviews thousands of digital camera's.  The great thing about this site is that Steve takes sample pictures with the camera reviewed, so you can look at them and compare it to the other pictures taken on other cameras.

posted by llshibataNovember 7, 2005 at 23:21

Same experience, almost... [ e ]

I recently bought a Sony CybershotSomething and ran into the same kind of a situation as you described - I seemed to get only blurry pictures no matter how hard I tried to hold still, while my old camera performed perfectly in same conditions. This got me a *bit* pissed off.

Fortunately, one of the courses I took in school was photography, and I have a better idea than most of all the variables that go into taking pictures. I've been fiddling with the setup of my Sony and last night managed to get my first sharp pictures in low-light conditions - the trick is to force your camera to take underexposed pictures.

Modern digital cameras are designed to be as automatic as possible, and the various situational settings that they offer are simply sets of parameters for things like aperture and shutter speed - things that were selected manually with traditional film cameras.

Basically the shutter speed of your Nikon is too slow, meaning that the photocell remains exposed to the light for a too long period of time. This is probably because the automatic selection of shutter speed is a compromise that the manufacturer has set: in bright light conditions (outdoors) you get good shots, indoors you will almost always need to use the flash to get any kind of a proper shot.

To use my camera in low light conditions without flash, I forced the setup to ASA 400 film setting instead of automatic. No museum or candlelight settings, just that. What this means is that the camera acts as if there is a highly light sensitive film inside (ASA400, when normally we use ASA100 or 200), meaning that the shutter speed must be faster (4 times faster than ASA100). Now I can get pretty decent, non-blurry shots, that are slightly underexposed (because the fast shutter speed means that not enough light enters the photocell) but are OK after fixing the pics a bit on the computer.

I don't know if this is possible on your Nikon, usually the user interfaces of Nikon digicams has left me less than impressed. On the other hand this Sony I just bought is probably the last Sony I'm buying, because of the bad balance of features and automatic settings.

posted by quakerNovember 8, 2005 at 3:02

You might be out of luck, though [ e ]

In continuation to my previous post, I just read through a featurelist for the Coolpix S4 and it seems to me there are no manual settings at all for that camera, in which case your recommendation to steer clear of the S4 is sound advice. You have my sympathy.

posted by quakerNovember 8, 2005 at 3:22

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There are manual settings for ASA and I tried setting it to 400.  Unfortunately the pictures come out with fairly extreme noise.  While I expect more noise in a faster image it's 4 like times the noise I got from my previous camera under the same conditions making it unusable

posted by greggmanNovember 8, 2005 at 9:53

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Sup gregg. Im using a minolta dimage f300 5 megapixel camera. It's a very a good camera, it has 4 different resolutions starting at 800x600 and up to 2560x1920. here are some of the specs if you are interested.

# Compact, stylish and lightweight aluminum body
# Minolta 3x optical F/2.8 38-114mm GT zoom lens
# 5-megapixel CCD, up to 2560 x 1920 pixel images
# Auto, Program AE, Aperture priority, Shutter Speed priority, Manual and Movie exposure modes
# Automatic Digital Subject Program: Portrait, Sports, Landscape, Sunset, Night portrait
# Wide focus area or Spot focus with area selection
# Subject Tracking AF and Area AF
# Exposure bracketing, 3 frames w/1.0, 0.5 or 0.3 EV increment
# Shutter speeds: 1/1000 to 15 secs, Bulb (max. 15 sec)
# Continuous advance: 1.2fps to a max. of 7 frames
# Ultra High Speed capture @ 11fps in 1280x960 resolution
# Selectable ISO speeds: 64, 100, 200, 400 or Auto
# Motion video: 320 x 240 w/audio at 15fps up to 3 minutes, 160x120 movies up to 20 minutes. Night movie with gain up.
# Audio memo recording up to 15 secs w/still image
# Audio recording w/out still image, 3 hours maximum
# White balance: Auto, 5 presets or Custom
# Color modes: Vivid color, Natural color, B&W
# Sharpness, Contrast and Color Saturation control (3 levels each)
# Multi-segment, Center-weighted or Spot metering
# 1.5-inch TFT color LCD monitor
# White balance options: automatic, daylight, tungsten, cloudy and fluorescent
# Built in flash with Auto, Red-eye reduction, Night portrait and Fill modes
# USB v1.1 connectivity
# Removable SD/MMC memory cards (32MB included)
# Epson PRINT Image Matching compliant
# Powered by 2-AA or one CR-V3 battery


The only problem I have encountered is during movie recording in dark areas as nightclubs etc...the picture tends to get noisy but you get awesome pictures with it and the reguluar movies are ok for beeing 320x240. it has a good autofocus and nice antishake thingy. Another thing which is not very good with it is the size. I find it clumsy sometimes but thats probably just because I bring it to nightclubs.

posted by KristoferNovember 8, 2005 at 16:56

Best price in Japan [ e ]

Hey Mr G,

Before you buy again, why don't you go to Yodobashi or similar cos you can play will all their cameras to your hearts content. You can set most to  English mode and check to see if they do what you want.

When you are ready to buy I suggest visiting www.kakaku.com for the best price in Japan. You'll probably get free shipping too.

Good luck

posted by ketchiketchiNovember 9, 2005 at 18:34

Comparison & review sites [ e ]

these are good too

http://www.dpreview.com

http://www.dcresource.com

http://www.imaging-resource.com

posted by ketchiketchiNovember 9, 2005 at 18:39

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thanks.

I did buy it at Yodobashi and I did check out other cameras.  Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to give them a real test at Yodobashi which is super brightly lit.  My #1 test would be to go into a typical restaurant at night and take pictures of my friends who are not holding all that still.

Otherwise, it was my mistake to buy it on mostly impulse.  I bought it beacuse I knew Nikon had a pretty good rep and because it's the only camera in the store that comes close to meeting my true wants. (small, swivel, and 5x+ optical).  95% of the other cameras have no swivel (I think there are 4 swival cameras out of 200 models) and 95% of the cameras only have 3x optical unless they are really large.  The S4 was the only one that I mostly didn't have to compromise on one of those features (although it is not really *small* it's not big).

There were no reviews at the time and even so, the reviews are relatively positive but I've learned in the past the reviewers are pretty clueless.  Or rather they are generally photographers and if you treat the camera like a photographer, setup the shot, use all the best settings for the situation, use a tripod etc, then yes, even most digital cameras will take reasonably good pictures (which is one reason why no review on dpreview is less than 7 out of 10).

The question they don't ever answer is if you use it like a non-photographer, take pictures at parties, take quick pictures indoors when you see something interesting, take nearly all pictures on default settings etc because it's too much of a pain in the ass to deal with all those settings.  When you use the camera like that, some cameras excel, other cameras fail.  Most cameras fail.  The reviews don't tell you that though because they don't test for that

posted by greggmanNovember 9, 2005 at 21:17

mistake avoided [ e ]

I've been flipping back and forth on this one for a couple weeks now: varied reviews on amazon (which I figure to be the non-photographer type) and a few "professional" reviews.  I really want that swivel design, but I don't want a shit, pita camera.  So now the front runner is the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ2.  It has 5mp, 6x optical zoom with a stabilization feature.  It also meets my othe criteria of using AAs and an SD card.  If anyone has experience to add on this one, I'd appreciate it (going to Thailand in 2 weeks!).

posted by gratefulNovember 12, 2005 at 20:33

I feel bad for you [ e ]

If not for a few bad comments I've read around the place, I would probably have gotten an S4 by now. I too, want a compact, easy to carry camera with at least 5x zoom. My main usage is for concerts and gigs, so low lighting and a decent zoom are important. The Panasonic LZ2 looks like my front-runner at the moment, for some reason imaging-resource put the S4 as a 'Dave's Pick' but not the LZ2, although the LZ2 seems to produce better images, especially with it's image stabilization technology. If you look at the test shots at ISO400, I can see more detail from the LZ2! I can't see why...
Thanks though, you have helped me make my decision. I feel bad that you have to live with what seems like a dog of a camera. It's a shame, it looks so good on paper.

posted by EddieNovember 13, 2005 at 14:36

Coolpix 8800 [ e ]

I know you want something more compact than something like the 8800, but I thought I'd mention that it has the vibration reduction stuff as well as noise reduction stuff and they seem to work fairly well for me. I do find that when I'm taking a lot of quick pictures that every third or fourth picture will end up blurry, but that might be my own poor camera skills. Many shots do come in quite sharp. The 8800 has 10x zoom and is 8 megapixel. But, alas, it isn't compact though it is pretty reasonable in size for having a 10x zoom. I never have much success taking any pictures at night without the flash on. Only if nothing is moving and the camera is still and I experiement with the long exposure settings. But it's rare when I tinker like that, mostly I just want to take shots quickly and I use the flash.

posted by anon_nikNovember 14, 2005 at 0:49

I know its a bit late now, but ...... [ e ]

I too was looking at the S4 - my requirements seem to be the same as yours - but based upon past experience decided to wait to see some reviews first.  I'm glad I did, although yours is te most critical review I've read.

I'm now looking at the Ricoh Caplio R3 - slightly smaller than the S4, light weight, 2.5 inch screen, 5MP, 7.1 optical zoom with wide angle lens, virbration correction function, good battery life, very quick response times and so on.

But how will it work in the real world?

Check it out at http://www.dpreview.com/news
/0509/05090702ricoh_caplior3
.asp
  or 

http://www.trustedreviews.co
m/article.aspx?art=2050

But like I say, its a bit late now for you perhaps -  or it might be crap too!

posted by MarkNovember 19, 2005 at 4:55

Canon Ixy series [ e ]

Sorry to hear that the Canon Ixy's didn't fit your requirements. I've been using the D40 for a while and I think it's an excellent camera for its size.

posted by MrSinghNovember 19, 2005 at 11:45

update on S4 [ e ]

So I took the S4 out to Gaienmae in Tokyo last week.  Full daylight and it took some spectacularly crappy pictures.

This is the first picture I took in full automatic mode.  It might look okay but the colors are so far off it's unbelievable.  Those trees should be lemon yellow!  My friend Rory, an artist on my team who's wife is a professional photographer, adjusted the exposure until the image on the display on the back of the camera looked correct and took a picture.  Here's how bad it came out.  Of course I understand the sky is bright and I expected that top happen with this camera.  At the same time it was an overcast day and the sun was not on that side of the sky.  I should have taken my old camera for comparison.  It would have taken a better picture.

Putting it back in full auto, from the other end of the street it took this pic which is not sooo bad except the colors are wrong.  But from that exact same spot I zoomed until just leaves filled the picture.  WTF happened here?  The colors are all washed out and there's like a white fringe on everything.

Next I tried to take a picutre under the canopy of leaves.  Note it's like 3pm in the afternoon and bright.  Any camera I've ever owned to this point in my life would have had no problem taking this picture.  I tried my best to hold still but this is what I got.  Clearly it didn't take the picture fast enough.  The colors seem close to right for the first time though.  The camera has no speed setting but you can set ASA so I set it to 400 hoping it would snap a faster picture.  It still came out blurry

So, last weekend I loaned the camera to a photographer friend.  After playing with it for several days he believes the camera must be defective.  He doesn't believe it should be taking such bad pictures, especially after seeing examples from other sites.  We are going to take it back and hopefully exchange it for a new one.  I'll keep you posted.

posted by greggmanDecember 6, 2005 at 10:17

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Wow, those weren't too good. Hopefully its a defective camera like your friend said. I'd hate to think about the money you wasted on that piece of crap if it wasn't defective.

posted by LeoDecember 6, 2005 at 12:16

S4 Is A Great Cam [ e ]

 

    Just hold the camera when taking pics.

posted by PicsManDecember 14, 2005 at 10:13

The S4 SUCKS ASS [ e ]

Okay, well, I got the camera back from repair.  They claimed there was nothing wrong.  I got home, took the camera out of the box.  Tried to take a picture from my living room to my dinner room with all the lights on.  Click..........Picture is Blurry.   F*******************CK!  This is not about holding the camera still.  I have other cameras that will take that picture no problem.

So, my recommendation remains, avoid the S4.  It's a complete piece of shit.

posted by greggmanDecember 23, 2005 at 0:51

Same S4 Problem as you have [ e ]

My S4, like yours, produces blurry pictures 80% of the time.  In trying to diagnose the problem, I came across your blog.  Since you are located in Japan, where Nikon has an excellent service center (in Shinjuku?), I am really interested in knowing their final response to your complaint.  In the last few years, I took more than 10,000 pictures with my Nikon 990.  That old camera produces better color than my Nikon N70 SLR (film).  But it operates painfully slowly.  I thought that I would have the best of all world by upgrading to the S4.   After 500 pictures with the S4, I notice that something is very strange.  Still I did not fully know how bad things are until I compare the new S4 pics with those from my 990.  Guess what . . . my old 990 with its meager 3 Megapixels produced much sharper, contrasty and colorful pictures than my new S4.  Before seeing your blog, I thought that my S4 was just an an isolated lemon.  But I now realize that, besides yours, there has been many blogs about S4 having difficulty focusing.   Apparently, the Nikon 7900 has a similar problem.  So, in short, I would be grateful to know if Nikon in Tokyo has any solution for you, or if the S4 problems we are having can be fixed somehow.  Thanks.

posted by UnhappyS4UserDecember 25, 2005 at 13:20

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As it says below, Nikon said there was nothing wrong with the camera and yet my very next picture was "picture is blurry"   I sold the camera to a used shop at a loss of about $200.

posted by greggmanDecember 26, 2005 at 12:39

first instinct? [ e ]

Greggman, fist instinct is important, isn't it? Canon, although it might not have all the things you want, takes the best pictures, I think. I bought one for my daughter and somehow it shoots very good. Yes, that Nikon saying "Picture is Blurry" is stupid! If so, why don't you fix it, Mr. Nikon! Nikon camera was good when F series came out. That was a long time a go and now, Canon is better!

neko

posted by nekoJanuary 20, 2006 at 22:33

blurry is [ e ]

I bought the Kyocera SL300R when it first came out.  Slim, 3x, 3MP, swivel lens similar to the Nikon S4.  It's pretty good, not as much blurry photos as your Nikon, only happens when it's dark and shutter time is high.  Check out some photos on flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos
/tags/sl300r/


I recently bought the Panasonic FZ4 for US$250!!!  A really great deal!!!!  It's an excellent camera w/ Leica lens 12x zoom!  I know it's big, but after using solely miniature digicam, I figure I need a bigger one to take good pics during my trips.  Check out pics - http://www.flickr.com/photos
/tags/fz4/

http://www.flickr.com/photos
/tags/fz5/

posted by cloneofsnakeFebruary 7, 2006 at 17:53

S4 [ e ]

Dude, i dont know what your talking about with the blur problem.
I have an s4 and it never does that unless you shut off the flash manually but I also have a canon A70 and it does the same thing..
All experience I have had with a digital camera is that they all blur the picture if you shake the slightest bit when the flash is off..

Otherwise the S4 has been great..

posted by mikeMay 28, 2006 at 20:58

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> they all blur the picture if you shake the slightest bit when the flash is off

then maybe you should try some other cameras.  They don't all have the blur problem or have it to a much lesser extent than the S4.  On top of which I'm not talking about just in dark situations.  See the examples.

posted by greggmanMay 28, 2006 at 23:35

maybe an overlooked part.. [ e ]

I had the same problem with a friends canon powershot camera. I realized afterwards that the camera was on a low light exposure setting.. as soon as I change the ISO to something more reasonable like 200 .. the pictures started coming out great.
is it possible that you were taking your pics with a low ISO setting..??

posted by babakMay 30, 2006 at 11:02

more opinions [ e ]

I strongly complain about negative opinions stated about Nikon's S4,
in fact for the money (400$) I couldnt buy a better cam.
For sure, as every cam on the market, also S4 has its own "bugs", but nothing to be realy concerned about.
User friendlyness a great set of features is what this cam delivers, and against what was pointed out many times here, "blury pics and so on", I must dissagree, for the time i'v been using the S4, and for me it produced NONE of the mysterious "blury" pictures mentioned above!!!
If you cannot shot, dont do it! but dont try to give ppl so so negative vision about that or any other product either!

Imo a shame for the reviwer.

Regards~~

posted by ivyAugust 6, 2006 at 13:33

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I'm glad you are enjoying your S4.  As for my experience, Having owned 10 digital cameras since 1995 the S4 was by far the worst experience I had. I thought maybe I had a lemon and gave Nikon the chance to give me something that didn't suck but they told me my S4 was fine. If it's working for you that's great but I can only say it didn't work for me. It has nothing to do with being able to *shoot* because I don't have any of those problems with other cameras. Go Figure.

posted by greggmanAugust 6, 2006 at 23:41

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I LOVE MY NIKON S4.  IT TAKES WONDERFUL PICTURES.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE PICTURES.  I LOVE THE 10 X TELEPHOTO. MY 2 DAUGHTERS AND 4 OF MY FRIENDS BOUGHT THE S4 AND THEY ALL LOVE IT.  THE OTHER REVIEWERS MUST HAVE A DEFECTIVE CAMERA.  IT IS A GREAT CAMERA.  I HAVE A CANON ELF, A BIGGER 10X NIKON AND THE S4.  IT IS THE ONE I PREFER TO TAKE.  FITS IN MY SHIRT POCKET.  I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT. MY FAVORITE

posted by PrinceOctober 5, 2006 at 17:38

Coolpix S4 [ e ]

I'm sorry I did not see your review before buying my S4, but like you it was a somewhat impulsive purchase.  I also have an SLR camera, but it's just too big to lug around in every situation.  I experienced what you described but thought it was just my poor photography ability.  Anyway, one of my main complaints about this camera is the lack of a separate viewfinder.  In bright daylight, when it can take pretty good pictures, I cannot see anything but glare in the digital display.  It's very frustrating not being able to compose a picture using the zoom lens, which is one of the reasons I bought the camera in the first place.  I checked with Nikon and there does not seem to be a good fix except to add a bulky (and expensive) attachment.  Any comment on that?

posted by virginiaOctober 21, 2006 at 8:45

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Hello folks & Greg,

I must admit, I don't know what to think since I have no problems with my S4 either...

Well god knows what was the problem in Greg's case...I presume it was a defective piece.

But i've just noticed an successor of S4 came up to the market.

Maybe you all have heard about it, its the S10.

Same lovely swivel design but added functions missing from S4 some people complained about.

As far as I know, Greg you are still using the kinda "outdated" :) Sony N1 or whatever it is...

I suggest, if you like the Nikon's swivel design (most people love it^^ thank god Nikon realized it) you sould certainly try the new S10

Cheers!

posted by s4userNovember 29, 2006 at 10:26

S4 Bad, Canon Good [ e ]

I have an S4 too, and it is a piece of junk.  Not only do I have all the problems you had, but the camera broke after 6 months (apparently not uncommon) and Nikon didn't fix it right the first time I sent it for service.  I am not buying from them again.  On the other hand, a good friend of mine has had a lot of good luck with Canon cameras.  They have excellent point and shoots and also good higher end models like the S3.  Otherwise Olympus is good too.

posted by rackDecember 17, 2006 at 23:01

Nikon Coolpix S10 - Successor to the S4 [ e ]

I assisted a friend in purchasing a Nikon Coolpix S10 camera for her husband as a Christmas present. They have bought a new computer which was installed tonight so their photos could be transferred and stored. I went over to assist with the Nikon software installation and show them how to transfer their photos to the computer. We could not locate in the original Nikon box the cable which connects the camera to the computer via the USB port. All other items listed were there. We called Nikon support and after an hour an one half of waiting and talking to two people in Canada, we still do not have a cable being shipped to us. What a run around and to obtain one is more paperwork than filing a tax return. The process will take at least ten days to maybe have a cable.

My family and I have been a big fan annd supporter of Nikon since 1965. I was referred to Nikon by my father who was a Nikon user. Daddy was always right on the products he chose. I have bought more than a dozen Nikon cameras for my self, including several Coolpix digitals. Several for my children and my cousin. Always recommended Nikon to relatives and friends. No more, after my experience tonight. Daddy also said all good things change and he is right.

We are going to the camera store tomorrow and buy the cable (which the Nikon guy said costs $14 U.S.)

I would appreciate hearing from others regarding the names of other cameras where the product support is pleasing and acceptable.

Beware of Nikon. Good things have changed!

posted by JWWJanuary 4, 2007 at 0:45

S4 Issues [ e ]

I have had an S4 for just over a year now, after a couple of years with the Nikon 4500. I am addicted to the swivel design, and now I don't think I would want a camera without it. I also love the 10x optical zoom, which is the best for any camera at this price. However - I have also experienced the issues with blurry photos. I don't bother with indoor photos at all, with either the S4 or 4500. Flash or no flash, no matter which setting, 90% come out blurry. Outdoor photos work much better -  with plenty of light and a relatively still subject. The problem I have had there is when I am aimed anywhere near the sun, I get horrible blue diamonds on the photos, which I believe are sun spots or ghosting, or something like that. In some cases I can prevent these by holding my hand around the lens like a sun shade, but you have to be careful not to get fingers in the picture and that's pretty crummy for a spontaneous photo. Last issue is that night photos come out grainy and very very orange. It may be sodium vapor street lights reflecting into the sky, but it seems to happen under most nighttime conditions. I don't regret my purchase because I love the swivel lens and 10x zoom, but I can't recommend this for fast action, indoor, or low light.

posted by DDJanuary 22, 2007 at 1:05

Nikon S4 - Terrible. faulty twice with same problem ! [ e ]

My Nikon S4 has only been used about 6 times.   It already got sent back for repair when the screen went black for no reason (as I hadnt used it  for a couple of months).  Then, the same thinkg happenened again !!.  SAo, I sent it back again today !.    It seems that when it hasnt been used for a few weeks, it loses somethinng in the lens area and shuts the screen down !

I will never buy Nikon again !

posted by sueMarch 5, 2007 at 9:23

Coolpix S4 no display [ e ]

Hi

I have a Nikon S4. Purchased in May 06. It was working fine till recently. When I tried to film now, I am not able to see anything on the screen. The display was completely black. I was able to see my earlier shot pictures on the screen. For test purpose, I shot one new picture and tried to see the same but found that the picture was blank.

Can anyone give me a clue what would be the problem and solution for the same? I don't have an authorised service centre in my city.

Regards,

James

posted by jamesMarch 26, 2007 at 1:16

coolpix 4500 [ e ]

hi all,

i have an older nikon 4500.  i had it since 2003 and it has been doing fine. but lately, it started to give blurry/unfocussed images, maybe like what greg was saying with s4.  i tried taking pictures with tripod and bright morning light, but same problem.  i'm not sure if i need to do something with the settings since i normally take pictures in auto mode.  sometimes, the pictures look ok, especially when i zoom in to at least f3.5.  if you know how to fix this problem, please let me know. thanks.

-gus-

posted by gusJune 11, 2007 at 15:19

[ e ]

Ya I hate Nikon Coolpix cameras. I have one right now that makes every single picture look like someone took a piss over the lense. Seriously. Taking a picture with a white background? Forget it. You might as well just paint the wall yellow because that's what color it will be. I was wondering why I got such a good discount on this camera...bc it's a piece of crap!!!

posted by RoseJanuary 14, 2008 at 18:26

S4 is the best. [ e ]

i see many ppl complaining about the S4 in this forum... i personally dont agree with any of you.. S4 is a great cam... i have been using it for the past 2 years... still i cannot find its replacement..

I agree that it gives blurred images indoors without flash.. but i see no other problems..

Whereas u look at the positives.. 10x zoom.. this is one feature worth buying for.. could couple as a perfect candit cam.

i recently purchased a canon cam... the photos looked crisp.. but if u try zooming the images thru your PC, u will find that the photo will degrade completely.. now you take the same photo with the Nikon S4 and as you zoom.. the photo is still perfect

posted by callmekartJanuary 17, 2008 at 1:39

Nikon S4 [ e ]

S4 total disaster.Thought it was a good camera for a while.Particularly liked the 10x mag.Then lcd went black,did some research and found that Nikon were aware of this fault. Comments from all over the World with same problem. Advised that Nikon were repairing free of charge. Rang customer services who denied any fault existed. Would have to pay for repair approx. £60.00,agreed to discount 25%,agreed.Sent off camera,got email this morning asking for £94.50-what a rip off!! Will not pay. Disgraceful service.

posted by cobblers56February 6, 2008 at 8:27

s4 [ e ]

i have a nikon s4 and i rarely have problems with it. the only time i really have a problem is when i'm taking a macro close up of an object that is moving, for example a flower and it's slightly windy outside, but those turn out rather nicely too. a lot of times when it says that the picture is blurry, i can upload it to my computer and see it full size, or even zoom in and it's not really blurry at all. another small problem i've had with it was taking pictures in an aquarium, and indoors without flash, but i use the sport setting and it's fine, a little dark but that can be fixed with the d-lighting. in my opinion i think that the nikon s4 is best when outside in daylight, if you don't want to use a flash, or in a well lit room. dim rooms too if you use the night setting. when what i'm taking a picture of is moving, or if it's spontaneous, i have it set to sport. i have shaky hands as well but i don't have problems with blur as often as this review makes it sound. i have taken at least 3000 pictures with my s4 and the majority of them are perfectly fine. it's only broken once, and the screen went black when i turned it on but i sent it out to be fixed. i love my s4 and the quality of my photos. overall the best camera i have used.

posted by sApril 23, 2008 at 14:52

Coolpix S4 [ e ]

I'm also having too many problems with this camera.

One big plus is, that Nikon doesn't sell the S4 anymore.This camera is one big

failure.All the above mentioned problems,I think my Coolpix S4 has them all.Nikon

doesn't seem to worry because, they didn't release a firmware update.

posted by BadeyahMay 5, 2008 at 17:22

Pentax 7.1 pocket camera is horrible [ e ]

All of my shots come out blurry even up close with a flash or outside in bright sunlight. The higher ISO is crap to. If you leave it on auto it will never appropriately adjust for lower light settings, so you have to do it manually, and then it just makes the image too grainy to even use. Also, using the flash gives objects yellow and pink halos. Using the red eye flash setting doesn't help. They all still have red eye. Bottom line — I hate this camera. Since we've had it all of our family memories look like crap. I might as well have shot them with my phone. The Nikon model written about here might suck, but our eight year old Nikon 3.2 still shoots A LOT nicer picture than this Pentax 7.1, so for now we are using it again until I have time to go get a new camera. Hopefully whoever sees my craigslist ad for the Pentax, doesn't read this.

posted by disgruntledMarch 3, 2009 at 14:42