GNU - Open Source vs. Labor
GNU - Open Source vs. Labor This is mostly a beef with GNU.

First let me start off by saying I have nothing what-so-ever against people writing software and giving it away for free with or without source and with or without re-distribution rights and with or without modification rights.  GPLed or whatever you want to call it.  I think that's very cool and I've done it myself.

On the other hand, I went to www.gnu.org and I read many of the philosophy documents there and I came away with the distinct impression that the leaders of GNU feel that creating and selling software as a commercial venture without allowing the purchaser the right to re-distribute the software is pure evil and an abridgment of the purchasers rights.  I don't agree and I wonder if the some of their basic assumptions are wrong.

One of their assumptions seems to be that until the advent of software, when somebody purchased something they were paying for a material good and therefore since they could not make a copy of that good there was no issue of copying rights and no issue of re-distribution rights since you clearly have the right to resell or give away the product that you just purchased.  Also, since the purchaser could not make a copy, at least not easily, the only way to get a material good without paying was to steal it.  If you steal a material good then the original owner of that good no longer has it in his possession. Since you can make a copy of software without taking away the owner's original that makes software different and hence it should be legal to copy and re-distribute all software period because it's easy and doesn't effect the owner.  In fact they go on to stay the because it's easy and doesn't effect the owner it is an abridgment of the users rights to prevent him from re-distributing the software.

They seem to base alot of their reasoning behind the "users rights" and the difference between material goods where you purchase a material good and software where you purchase something that is arguably, not a material good.

The problem I see is that they completely ignore the labor element of goods, material or non-material.

If fact, it can be argued that you almost never pay for material goods or that if you do it is a very small percentage of the total cost of the goods.

Take almost any material good.  Bread, Apples, Cars, Houses, Furniture.  When you by a loaf of bread for $1 or $2 did that bread cost $1 or $2 dollars in material goods?  Did the flour, yeast, eggs, salt, fuel for the oven, etc cost $1 to $2.   No, it probably cost less than 25 cents.  Even if you consider the cost of the kitchen and all the tools inside it, pans, sheets, spoons, knives, oven and divide it by the total number of loafs of bread that will ever by made with it and factor that into the material costs of the bread it's still only going to be like 30 cents total.  So, what are you paying for?  You are paying for labor, not material goods.

The same holds true for nearly every other material good.  Some products are the result of specialized labor and so usually you pay more for those goods because it's harder to find somebody to make them.  Other times a particular good requires alot of labor and so it costs alot more.  For example say a $100,000 house (note: this is not taking into account land values, just the house).  There are not $100,000 worth of materials in a $100,000 house.  Especially if you break it down to the base elements level.  I.e., wood, copper, brass, lead, steal, concrete, glass, etc.  You paid for labor to turn those things into 2x4s, pipes, fixtures, nails, bricks, windows, etc.   Then you paid more labor to turn those things into a house.

So, along comes the GNU people and because, unlike a house, software can be duplicated for free without taking any material goods from the creator that therefore it is their right to be able to copy and re-distribute it.  But, that completely ignores the labor factor.  I'd argue that the analogy is to walk into a bakery, take a loaf of bread, give the baker 35 cents and tell him "I'm only going to pay you for the cost of materials." and then walking out without giving the baker the option to say, "No, I'm asking $2 for the loaf, pay it or get out."

The GNU people assume that because there are no material costs for software then it should be free to copied and redistributed but I hope I just made it clear that you almost never pay for material goods now.  Or when you do pay for something very little of price is actually covering material goods.  The majority of it is covering labor.

So, along comes software where it is very easy to make copies and to re-distribute.   Those people making software would like to make sure that even though people can make copies, because there are no material costs, that they can still get paid for their labor in the same way as the baker wants to get paid for his labor.

to be continued...


Comments:

Think Free Speech, not Free Beer. [ e ]

Funny that some people can't keep this slogan in their brain for more than 5 seconds.

posted by anon_WVHJune 4, 2003 at 20:18

Free Speech [ e ]

Means I'm free to say what I want.  It does not mean you are free to use my speech, copy my speech or modifiy my speech.  You are free to make your own speech.  You are even free to base your speech on the ideas and facts in my speech but you are not allowed to copy my speech (unless I give you permission).  It's called plagiarism.

but, you complelely missed my point.  My point is that according to the GNU site, GNU came to their conclusions about why software should be free in part based on false premises.  One premise repeated several times on their page is the because software is easy to copy it should be copyable, that no one is getting hurt because the copies are not scarce, unlike material things.  I believe that's a false conclusion.  Labor is scarce.  It is only the scarcity of labor that makes something cost money.  It is not the materials.  Even diamonds are free.  You find them in the ground and pick them up for free.  What makes them expensive is it take sooo much labor to find them.  GNU then base several more arguments on that false conclusion.

posted by greggmanJune 5, 2003 at 19:54

[ e ]

It's not really that useful to compare software with material goods. They are fundamentally different.

In your baker example the baker would (against his will) be left with a bread less to sell, that he had spent labor on, than before. That's what I'd like to call theft.

Now, software once created just isn't scarce in the same way. Once an idea has been conceived and put into a program, a copy, it's a matter of milliwatts to create another.

Now, say you're a researcher who was the first to create a fundamental part of the computer. It was obvious how it should be done and it took you 5 minutes to figure out. Now, you want to get paid for this and decide you want a cent for every computer sold. Does this, 5 minutes of work, warrent a billion dollar? Anyone in their right mind would say no!

Software can be sold over and over again, with no additional work.

Now, consider a large bread-market with tight competition. What's the labor cost of a massproduced loaf? Not far from the cost of its ingredients. Apply the same logic to software, and you get?

See how it's not as simple as it may first seem?

posted by enonymousJanuary 12, 2006 at 6:29

[ e ]

You're right, it' not a perfect analogy.

Still, you can't ignore the labor factor which most people tend to ignore.  That fact that it can be copied for free doesn't mean the labor shouldn't be considered.  If I hire to to make me a report (make a website, do my taxes, draw me a picture) and then after you've spent a week making it I don't pay you, take the report, make a copy and claim "hey, you're not out anything, you still have the report so you didn't lose anything".  Well, in truth, you did lose something, you lost a week of your time.

Also, your example of the researcher doesn't fit.  I never said you should be able to force someone to pay.  If it only took the researcher 5 minutes then if you don't want to pay his outragous price don't pay him and spend your own 5 minutes doing your own research.  Don't get the discussion above mixed up with patent issues.  I generally agree, you shouldn't be able to stop someone from using ideas.  I don't agree that you should be able to take the results of their labor without their permission.  You are welcome to do your own labor though to get your own results.

posted by greggmanJanuary 12, 2006 at 12:47