You're so right about most Chinese food in Japan being not authentic and super expensive. Thanks for the tip! BTW, I've found dim sum places in Tokyo to be pretty good, but still expensive. posted by albertSFBayAreaAugust 30, 2004 at 10:25 [ e ]

where's the good dim sum? I haven't found any good dim sum in Tokyo and that includes Chinatown which actually has some of the worst Chinese food I've ever had and that's after going to about 8 different restaurants down there. The problems with dim sum in Tokyo which I'm sure I mentioned somewhere on this site before are (1) it's too expensive so you can't afford lots of different items which is half the point (2) it's slow.  In real dim sum you sit down, the carts come by, you point to what you want and your table is full of 8 to 20 items of different stuff in like 5 minutes.  In a Japanese dim sim place you order from a menu, the items come one at a time (3) Japanese dim sum places serve dim sum with soy sauce and mustard, Chinese places serve with chili sauce and mustard.  If it's missing any one of these things it's not dim sum at least not for me. The best I've found is this place, Kowloon Ten Shin at MyCity in Shinjuku.  It's 2500 all you can eat you can get lots of different items.  It's not the best but they do have carts and you can fill your table quick.  They still only have soy sauce and mustard but I just bring my own chili sauce.  That's as close as I've gotten to real dim sum here in Tokyo. Still, 2500 yen per person for dim sim is double what I'd pay in HK or LA. posted by greggmanAugust 30, 2004 at 12:38 [ e ]

gyoza Gyoza in Chinese are jiaozi. The normal pan-fried variety are better called guotie (鍋貼), which is where we get the word "potstickers" from. The best sarariman greasy spoon gyoza can be had at at 餃子の王将 (Gyoza King), 210 yen for 6. There are shops throughout Japan. Go on a Friday when beer is half price. http://www.ohsho.co.jp posted by dmaAugust 31, 2004 at 6:39 [ e ]

actually... The best dim sum I've ever had in my life was in Hong Kong where there were no carts.  Everything is ordered, so you have to go with someone who knew the Cantonese names for all the dishes, or at least be able to understand the Chinese menu... Actually a lot of the dim sum places I went to in Hong Kong didn't really have carts, so I'm not so tied into the idea that carts = authentic dim sum... posted by wlngSeptember 11, 2004 at 0:54 [ e ]

HK dim sum Hmmm, I went to HK and saw the cart places all over the place.  Of course that doesn't mean they were the best   I wonder if it's kind of like hamburgers meaning that I generally consider a hamberger something your order over a counter but you can still go to a fancy restaurant and get a hamburger. posted by greggmanSeptember 11, 2004 at 1:43 [ e ]

I am from Hong Kong and of course I know Hong Kong got the best dim dum at the world. But don't despair, I found this place to be equally good in Shinbashi: http://r.gnavi.co.jp/g828000 /index.htm I only went at lunch at Saturday so I am not sure if the offering are the same at night, but anyway it's the best dim sum I had in Tokyo. posted by FredOctober 10, 2004 at 10:46 [ e ]

Looking at their menu they have the 3900yen course, the 6300yen course and the 6800 yen course.  It hope it's good because in LA I'd get get out for about 1200yen. posted by greggmanOctober 13, 2004 at 1:19 [ e ]

Lunch I found out today that Chinese Cafe Eight has a lunch time menu and there are only about 12 sets on it.  You can't order from the normal large menu.  Of course it was still good but I'd prefer to giant night time menu. posted by greggmanOctober 13, 2004 at 1:21 [ e ]

English map Here is a nice English map of the restaurant. Looks great on your phone. Good for showing or sending it to someone. http://gmap.jp/shop-2864.html posted by TokkimJune 28, 2006 at 23:09 [ e ]

Great Place This place is great, I live in Moto Azabu and work late from home so a cheap close chinese place is great.  The decor is hilarious, breasts everywhere. posted by JRBJanuary 18, 2007 at 11:33 [ e ]

Fav Dim Sum house I used to love Le Parc in Ebisu (http://www.vaou.com/viewRest aurant.do?objectId=285) but since HK tea house (http://www.vaou.com/viewRest aurant.do?objectId=174) had the all you can eat dim sum for less than 3,000 yen and with real HK quality, I have not been back to "le parc". if u like Dim Sum. check it out.  And let me know what u think! cheers, posted by foogerJanuary 24, 2007 at 2:47 [ e ]